Thoughts on this car for sale?
#1
Thoughts on this car for sale?
Thoughts on this 442 for sale? Original engine? Numbers? Price? Questions I should ask?
https://www.volocars.com/auto-sales/...oldsmobile-442
https://www.volocars.com/auto-sales/...oldsmobile-442
Last edited by ericisback; October 8th, 2021 at 09:44 AM.
#3
At that price they should include a spare. Looks to be well done but of course that hood is added and not original. Great color, if the price is in your wheelhouse and the restoration work is high-quality, and you like the car, go for it.
#5
85 grand holy crap. Man that car better be 100 percent perfect for that kind of money. I assume that you know that that hood never came on a 69? I see a few things that a price of 85 grand I would expect different.
Last edited by no1oldsfan; October 8th, 2021 at 12:34 PM.
#6
The engine is correct to that car(VIN derivative matches the VIN). That car has had major panel replacement(quarters and floor). Considering this is Volo, I would go over the car with a fine tooth comb.
Volo is just a used car lot that advertises itself as a museum. They are known for exaggerating the provenance, quality, and condition of the cars they sell.
I would check all the the replaced panels for excessive bondo or undercoating hiding poorly done seams.
The hood can be replaced.
Bad welding of replacement panels can cost a small fortune to have corrected.
This car is WAY over priced
More like $30-35K if its been restored correctly
Volo is just a used car lot that advertises itself as a museum. They are known for exaggerating the provenance, quality, and condition of the cars they sell.
I would check all the the replaced panels for excessive bondo or undercoating hiding poorly done seams.
The hood can be replaced.
Bad welding of replacement panels can cost a small fortune to have corrected.
This car is WAY over priced
More like $30-35K if its been restored correctly
Last edited by 70W-32; October 8th, 2021 at 01:57 PM.
#18
Without a doubt that POP is fake. As stated it should be embossed and more importantly, every single time that POP was used at the dealer's service center for warranty work the POP was used to "imprint" the warranty certificate which validated the warranty service agreement. It should be covered in ink.
EDIT: Hell, it doesn't even look to be the correct size for a POP.
EDIT: Hell, it doesn't even look to be the correct size for a POP.
#19
I'm on a little bit of a roll here - sorry. I purchased a used 1967 442 in 1969 & I carried the original POP in the glove box from the previous owner. That POP had the original owners name & address on the POP. While I'm sure the POP changed a little over the years, I believe every POP created was issued to the original owner (purchaser) of the vehicle wasn't it? I may be wrong about this, but I don't believe I am incorrect (at least for a 1969).
Here's a CO members 1968 POP.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...r-help-137304/
Here's a CO members 1968 POP.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...r-help-137304/
#20
Hence all that extra space at the top, where they didn't have the original purchaser's info to put in. Some unsuspecting soul will ante up for a very pretty car, none the wiser. Brilliant, calling yourself a museum so you can charge people to come in and look at your used car lot.
Actually it sort of looks to me like the engine factory corrected a mistake they themselves made. It looks like the M is stamped over a 2 or a 3. Careless worker maybe restamping his screw-up?
Also, why does it say Dorman in the freeze plug on the head? Dorman is an aftermarket parts company. Do they rebuild things?
Actually it sort of looks to me like the engine factory corrected a mistake they themselves made. It looks like the M is stamped over a 2 or a 3. Careless worker maybe restamping his screw-up?
Also, why does it say Dorman in the freeze plug on the head? Dorman is an aftermarket parts company. Do they rebuild things?
Last edited by slantflat; October 8th, 2021 at 08:19 PM.
#21
It's still a convertible 442 though. Is it worth 85K - probably not. Overpriced by about 2x or 3x.
Priced appropriately it could be a good car.
However more than likely they are looking to sell to an uneducated buyer.
If you like the car make an offer for what you think it's worth - and if they say no you haven't lost anything.
Priced appropriately it could be a good car.
However more than likely they are looking to sell to an uneducated buyer.
If you like the car make an offer for what you think it's worth - and if they say no you haven't lost anything.
#23
The engine is correct to that car(VIN derivative matches the VIN). That car has had major panel replacement(quarters and floor). Considering this is Volo, I would go over the car with a fine tooth comb.
Volo is just a used car lot that advertises itself as a museum. They are known for exaggerating the provenance, quality, and condition of the cars they sell.
I would check all the the replaced panels for excessive bondo or undercoating hiding poorly done seams.
The hood can be replaced.
Bad welding of replacement panels can cost a small fortune to have corrected.
This car is WAY over priced
More like $30-35K if its been restored correctly
Volo is just a used car lot that advertises itself as a museum. They are known for exaggerating the provenance, quality, and condition of the cars they sell.
I would check all the the replaced panels for excessive bondo or undercoating hiding poorly done seams.
The hood can be replaced.
Bad welding of replacement panels can cost a small fortune to have corrected.
This car is WAY over priced
More like $30-35K if its been restored correctly
#25
If your wanting a beautiful car, not necessarily a bonafide numbers matching car then offer them a price for something like that ..very very few cars are 100% documented numbers match cars.. go look at it, check it out, you may love it, then make your offer and leave if your so inspired. Many folks on this site are trying to inform you of what they see from pics and experience..Very helpful on some fronts but ultimately you should look at it and make your own decision. I don’t know if the pop is fake, its very hard-to say, maybe its a reproduction of the original pop, they may have the original as proof. Who knows until you either call and lay it all out as a serious buyer, then I am sure they will give you solid answers. Volo has been in business a very long time, if they were nothing but sheisters I doubt they would still be around..
#26
We all realize that it costs far more to have a Oldsmobile restored than what the value is after that expense.
Very few Olds will bring more $$$ than what you put into them.
#27
#30
I didnt say it would only cost $30-35k to restore the car, but that the cars value was only $30-35k
We all realize that it costs far more to have a Oldsmobile restored than what the value is after that expense.
Very few Olds will bring more $$$ than what you put into them.
We all realize that it costs far more to have a Oldsmobile restored than what the value is after that expense.
Very few Olds will bring more $$$ than what you put into them.
#31
Original powertrains are big-time drivers of a car's value. Stay away from restamps, no matter if it's an engine block, carburetor, distributor, or whatever.
Last edited by tnswt; October 11th, 2021 at 09:14 AM.
#33
Keep looking; your car is out there. Good Luck~
#34
you might be amazed of how nice of a car you can buy for 35-40K !!! I like to shop on the Oldsmobile sites and the Oldsmobile national car shows, dealing with actual owners and not consignment folks. Just my opinion!
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