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Not mine, claimed 5800 original miles, galleon gold 4 speed car. Claimed original paint, interior never restored..Same owner 44 years. Be interesting to see where bidding ends up ..
Hey, this is the only car I have ever seen in pictures claimed to be 100% interior, paint and less than 6k miles original. I also think the stripes are mucked up but am somewhat convinced they are factory ..factories didn’t put cars out like the better than new restos of today..the only area that has me scratching my head is the under carriage looks pretty rough for a car with 5800 miles on it..
I just asked the seller that very question..see how he answers it..He states original paint..those stripes look all kinds of jacked up but the factory surely wasn’t that particular back then, especially on Monday and Friday built cars
If that is really under 6,000 miles, then they were put on a 1/4 mile at a time
The undercarriage and drivetrain looks way too rough for a legit under 6,000 miles car. Look at the pedals, they are very rough looking for a 6,000 mile car.
I know Quality Control was bad back then but if those are the factory stripes, then QC was quite atrocious back then.
Look at the drivers side fender stripe vs the passenger side fender. The passenger side looks good while the drivers side is pointing up. Looks like a repaint on the drivers side?
Engine paint is the wrong blue color. Looks like a Pontiac blue color.
Last edited by pettrix; December 7th, 2022 at 08:32 PM.
Look at the drivers side fender stripe vs the passenger side fender. The passenger side looks good while the drivers side is pointing up. Looks like a repaint on the drivers side?
Pettrix always has true points.
Let me say this. A factory W-30 race car that ran a quarter mile at a time of course will have extremely low miles. Go with that. Once the the bullshitting of the talk of it is one hundred percent original. Quit with that. It is what it is. Quit with the bullshit. I hate bullshit. I don't get or respect it. You look like a bullshitter once you start bullshitting. Just be HONEST. Honest. Look it up. This is a super cool car. Quit with the bullshit. Tell me that car is one hundred percent original paint stripe etc. Quit. Cool *** car. Quit the bullshit.
Just noticed. In photo #71 in the BAT ad, the stripe on this car's said listing is the same. I'd bet the factory more likely to apply it crooked than a refinisher.
Last edited by Falkon; December 7th, 2022 at 09:12 PM.
Cool that it's from AD Pelunis which is where one of my 31's came from. While the angle of the LH fender stripe appears to be off, it very well could be original paint. It’s a neat car with the bench seat and stick. Good luck to the seller.
Last edited by WTHIRTY1; December 11th, 2022 at 05:16 AM.
The tow bar attachments, new looking exhaust manifolds, not so tidy rear exhaust trumpet positions and the pretty grungy under carriage for a car with this low of a mileage? The 72 (non W30) I own looks like this underneath but has almost 48,000 original miles? I know things can deteriorate just sitting for a lot of years but it seems to me like the miles vs. condition is off! But it is a very nice example! I can't afford it anyway LOL! It is a very nice car.
Probably had headers on it, performance intake and aftermarket aluminum valve covers that were so popular back in the day.
WTHIRTY1.....I noticed that right off the bat that it was the same dealer as your beautiful W-31!
Last edited by OLE442; December 8th, 2022 at 07:50 AM.
The tow bar brackets should be a HUGE clue. Rusting occurs 24/7 365 and has nothing to do with mileage. If I remember, the stripes in front of front wheels and behind rear wheels weren't in a straight, level line. They were parallel to the body line and side marker lights. The stripes do look like a sloppy job. The valve covers had to be removed because the engine needed freshening up for sale. The exhaust trumpets/tail pipes are not located correctly. Whoever was getting it ready to sell did a sloppy job. Getting the most money for the least amount of work is the goal.
The rust I understand but it's the crud underneath, My low mile 72 has crud like this but it was driven for almost 48,000 miles. I think it's a very nice car but the spin on it's history may be a little more forgiving IMO! That said, I wish it were sitting in my garage!
The tow bar brackets should be a HUGE clue. Rusting occurs 24/7 365 and has nothing to do with mileage. If I remember, the stripes in front of front wheels and behind rear wheels weren't in a straight, level line. They were parallel to the body line and side marker lights. The stripes do look like a sloppy job. The valve covers had to be removed because the engine needed freshening up for sale. The exhaust trumpets/tail pipes are not located correctly. Whoever was getting it ready to sell did a sloppy job. Getting the most money for the least amount of work is the goal.
True. Whoever did the work to get it ready to sell, if they actually took their time, it would show nicer and possibly get a higher sale price. At a BJ auction, it could easily see $100k+ if those items were more correctly assembled and detailed. The exhaust is hanging way too low and the trumpets are out too far. Use the correct Olds engine paint color, put the valve covers on the right way, and clean up the undercarriage.
If you read the ad and the comments/ comments answered the owner states he purchased in 1978, when purchased it had headers on it . Factory exhaust manifolds came with it. Stands to reason the heat stove was removed with headers. Seller states headers developed a leak and manifolds bead blasted and put back on. That explains the down pipes replaced, the missing heat stove etc. Picture 71 of the ad of the car for sale back in 1978 showed the exact funky angle of the drivers side front fender stripe..if it was repainted why in the hell would they duplicate that fubar stripe? Looking at the inside of doors, rubber stops, edges of door paint etc I believe its original paint and stripe. Now the mileage, he probably bought it back then at that mileage and could have easily disconnected the speedometer to keep from racking up miles..however I do not know the man nor am I saying he did that..its just odd to own a car 44 years and only put 1500 miles on it..The guy is obviously in his mid to late 70’s so he probably put new gaskets on valve covers , used some rustoleum blue paint then reinstalled backwards..lol.. just my two cents worth..I think if he knew it was wrong he would have had that repaired along with the tail pipes hanging low before putting it up for sale..its definitely a very very low mileage original paint, numbers match car tho..
Last edited by Andy; December 8th, 2022 at 03:54 PM.
It really looks like a true blue car. It looks very solid. I don't hate on it at all. It was obviously a drag car from day one. 3.91 and a four speed bench seat car. That is a factory built to run car. I really like the car. What bends me is the half stories. Just be honest.
Someone will get a very nice garage trophy.
WAY TOO MANY people here being experts on stripes. I have a car here for sale with a bent quarter panel stripe that looks terrible but is on original day 2 videos and photos that way. These stripes were done by humans and 2 different ones per side and maybe more. It wasn't one long one piece stencil. I think too many people have focused on restored cars vs the way they really were. My cars intake carb and manifolds came off before spring of 1970 and hitting the track. No one back then cared about the original pieces 50 years later and what people thought. Heck there is a real deal survivor bench seat 4 speed up by me and the original owner told me years back he needed an alternator and traded it as a core to the local store. All these original owners were car guys but not code guys like now.
Whether it's a 6k drag race car or a 100k street driven car, I doubt the bottom end has never been rebuilt. If it hasn't, then it will need a rebuild. Those bearings
Now the mileage, he probably bought it back then at that mileage and could have easily disconnected the speedometer to keep from racking up miles..however I do not know the man nor am I saying he did that..its just odd to own a car 44 years and only put 1500 miles on it..
I’ve had my ‘72 since around 1997 or so and I’ll bet I haven’t put 25 miles on it in all those years so 1500 could be real! I started a restoration when I first got it and was going to do it to perfection! As the years went by and life became more important and working way to much, the perfect restoration has become a decent restoration to what it would have been like in the mid 70’s! I just turned 70 and I just want to get it done and drive it for a few years and have it sellable so my wife can sell it after I expire! Sometimes things just change! When my car gets sold I’m sure some will wonder why I did certain things!
Like I said before, I wish this one was in my garage but it’s already out of my price range! I wish the owner good luck with this sale!
the seller is not the original owner.He is trying to some very slick stuff saying orig miles.because he prob has original title
he is also trying to float the title to get out of paying taxes.
And you know this how?He never claimed original ownership, only 44 years of ownership.. He claims to be 2nd owner, not original..first paragraph of the ad states that, also states the car has a clean title in the current owners name. Read first, respond later
Last edited by Andy; December 11th, 2022 at 01:49 AM.
And you know this how? He never claimed original ownership, only 44 years of ownership. He claims to be 2nd owner, not original. First paragraph of the ad states that, also states the car has a clean title in the current owners name. Read first, respond later.
Wow and as per usual they have the valve covers on backwards...
It's funny isn't it. Seller touts oh this and that. But you can't put valve covers on correctly. I just cannot stand storytellers. Like I said. It will be sitting in a high dollar garage somewhere. Sitting.
Crazy, on picture 71 is the original car magazine this w30 was advertised in 1978, if you expand the pic there is a 1970 w30 convertible for sale for 4500 firm..lol along with another 1970 w30 for 4 grand.. if we only knew..right?
I did, before the car appeared on this site. I have my opinion, you have yours.
Exactly…so I take it that somebody repainted mucked up stripes to match the original mucked up stripes to a T? Because pic 71 shows the old ad in 1978 and that front drivers side fender was angling upward back then. Ok..you are surely welcome to your own opinion.
Exactly…so I take it that somebody repainted mucked up stripes to match the original mucked up stripes to a T? Because pic 71 shows the old ad in 1978 and that front drivers side fender was angling upward back then. Ok..you are surely welcome to your own opinion.
yes I am, get over yourself, because apparently your opinion matters, but not mine. You love it so much, buy it.
Exactly…so I take it that somebody repainted mucked up stripes to match the original mucked up stripes to a T? Because pic 71 shows the old ad in 1978 and that front drivers side fender was angling upward back then. Ok..you are surely welcome to your own opinion.
I believe the fender has been touched up and that stripe has been repainted at the front. That is just my .02 cents, though.
December 7th, 2022, 02:01 PM
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