F-85 4-4-2

OK, minus the air cleaner, and the supposed 400, is there any chance that this is a real one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Oldsmo...1dfRrx&vxp=mtr

oldstata

I am not 100% here but I believe this has been floating around eBay for several years and has been noted not a 442
there should be old threads on the one I am thinking of.

joe_padavano

The car we have discussed here many times is the one in this photo. It is not the car currently on ebay.



This green/black Faux Four Two was built six months prior to the first documented real 64 442. It does not have a rear sway bar (or at least didn't back in 2014). The seller had some BS story about it being a "pilot car", and naturally didn't have a scrap of documentation to back that up. One of the many threads is available here. Again, not the car currently on ebay.

oldstata

Thanks joe !
I just remembered it be a green 64

OLDSter Ralph

The car has always been garaged ? Somehow "immaculate conception" occurred because the 400 didn't come out til 1965. One blatant lie makes me think that won't be the only lie.

joe_padavano

It's not a lie, it's a misinformed seller. Look at the alternator bracket. That's the 1964 style that only fits a small block. It won't physically bolt to a 400. That motor is a 330, the seller is just clueless.

OLDSter Ralph

Misinformed is one thing. I have misinformed in the past and you have corrected me on them. Using it to sell something makes it a lie. You are obviously more knowledgeable and attentive to details and I bow to your opinion. I didn't see an under hood pic when I checked the ad. I would have checked the engine casting number to confirm what engine it was.

lunaboy

"M" in the vin Lansing car; so now that the " cutlass " ? is up to 20K, I would think someone would request another pic of the cowl tag. Should have the 2L code for the 4 speed.

joe_padavano

I could have worded that better. What I should have said was that it is more likely that the seller is misinformed and mistaken than it is a deliberate attempt to mislead. This wouldn't be the first time that an SBO was mistaken for a BBO.


Which only proves that it came from the factory with a four speed. Lots of 4spd Cutlii were built in the 1964 model year, not just 442s.