Cross member repaired or lousy/lazy workmanship in 1964?

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Old November 25th, 2020, 03:37 PM
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Cross member repaired or lousy/lazy workmanship in 1964?

I've recently removed the Buick V6 from my 1964 base F85. While cleaning the cross member I found these suspect welds on the passenger side. I also found less obvious shoddy welding (weld spatter) on the driver's side. Was there ever a problem with these welds where Olds or a qualified shop/dealer needed to reinforce these seams? A bit nervous as I ready the cross member/frame for an Olds 350. Hoping to figure out why this looks as if it were rewelded. Maybe the car took a hit to the passenger side and hairline cracked the original manufacturers welding? The motor I pulled looks as though it was never removed prior to my disassemble and removal. Please help if you have an opinion. Thank you.

Drivers side less obvious but some weld spatter

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Passenger side looks rewelded

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Drivers side

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Old November 25th, 2020, 06:42 PM
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That's pretty typical assembly line quality for the time. Don't sweat it. These cars were grossly overdesigned specifically so that workmanship issues like this didn't need to be rejected and reworked. Today the CAFE mileage requirements force automakers to build cars a lot lighter, so all that extra strength (and weight) has been shaved out.
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Old November 25th, 2020, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
That's pretty typical assembly line quality for the time.

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Very typical of a factory frame weld. These frames were supplied to Lansing assembly, probably by Parish.

Hard to wrap your mind around the dynamics of a working class welder in 1963-4. Elvis was king; the Beatles were coming to America.
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Old November 25th, 2020, 07:26 PM
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Phew, good news. Wow surprised that got thru inspection. Thanks made my evening 👍
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