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I know this site isn't very sports related but I had to vent. All this legalized sports gambling has completely changed sports. You see players laying off of hits. You see ref's making non calls. Refs making bs calls. Professional and college games are so fixed. It's so obvious. I cannot stand seeing sports games thrown. Pete Rose is banned and I watch games thrown over and over. And obviously. Legalized gambling. Nice. This world is so without soul anymore. Old man says get off my lawn.
It is everything. Watching college football and the NFL you see so much questionable crap. I brought up the Pete Rose issue. Pete Rose is one of the best baseball players ever. He is blocked from the hall of fame? I watch so many games now where players play off and don't even try. Ref's making lame calls and non calls. You can see it in damn near every game. Tell me these games aren't fixed.
I quit patronizing the NFL when Kapernick started disrespecting the National Anthem. A lot of others did, too, but they just couldn't stay away and went back, just like Bud Light drinkers.
I remember seeing an interview years ago from the guy who led the investigation into Pete Rose. His words... "If the public knew what I know about Pete Rose, they would NEVER support his induction into the hall".
Through the years all Pete had to do was apologize and the MLB was willing to forgive and let him into the hall. He refused.
I'm saying this and I actually loved him as a player. Charlie Hustle never seemed to quit. It doesn't hurt that he helped my Phillies win the Series back in '80 either.
When it comes to sports gambling, I have to admit, the only part about it that bothers me anymore is the fact that every commercial during a game seems to be for a new gambling site. I say bring back the Miller Lite Beer commercials. "Tastes great...Less Filling".
Just to put this out there. I rarely gamble, other than the occasional lottery ticket. I've always lived by the saying "If you can't afford to lose, don't place the bet". With 3 kids in college, I choose not to bet.
When it comes to sports, there have always been bad calls from refs. There are missed/bad ones in every single game. Players have always taken plays off or alligator armed a catch. It just seems more obvious now.
It has tainted sports. Period. Tell me people aren't on the take.
Don't watch it? No offense taken. I probably don't watch what you watch either. I am outside doing this and that. Building things. Living life etc. I enjoy sports. Better that than watching 65 putzstang videos 😅😂
I used to bet on Sports but not really that much any longer. Sometimes the office basketball brackets or Super Bowl Squares but that's about it.
Now I restrict my gambling to the Roulette Wheel on cruise ships: 00-27-10-25-29 are my numbers. They are all next to each other (known as "neighbors"). I have been on 8 cruises and I am undefeated. Left the ship a winner every time. Why? I STOP playing after no more than either 5 or 10 spins. You keep playing you keep losing. They hate people like me. Tough.
Before the current crop of betting sites, I and a couple of friends were setting up an electronic book. We had no idea that Draft Kings etc were already in the hunt and starting their books. Yeah, we lost our whole investment. The big boys were already in. That means, you're out. Oh and never gamble. You will always lose, eventually. That's why I wanted to open an electronic book. The analog version was a tremendous success. This car is a 4 speed. I know it's not Olds but it is VERY cool.
Perfect example today in the Cleveland Houston game. Cleveland threw a bomb. The safety stood there and just watched. Didn't even try to break it up or anything. So obvious. Number 21 for Houston. Watch that replay. Then Houston had a chance to hit the runner on his way into the end zone. Same thing. Just layed off and let them score.
I brought up the Pete Rose issue. Pete Rose is one of the best baseball players ever. He is blocked from the hall of fame?
Pete Rose 2024 inductee.
Originally Posted by chip-powell
I remember seeing an interview years ago from the guy who led the investigation into Pete Rose. His words... "If the public knew what I know about Pete Rose, they would NEVER support his induction into the hall". Through the years all Pete had to do was apologize and the MLB was willing to forgive and let him into the hall. He refused.
I'm saying this and I actually loved him as a player. Charlie Hustle never seemed to quit. It doesn't hurt that he helped my Phillies win the Series back in '80 either.
Here's what Bill James had to say about Pete Rose some years back:
"He was not blessed with great speed or strength or quickness or agility but he was perhaps the most competitive player who ever lived. He hustled from April first to the end of the season, like nobody else we ever saw; he was called Charlie Hustle. He loved the game of baseball, he loved playing baseball for a living and he made sure that it showed every day."
Of course that didn't mean that he couldn't be a liar, a cheater, a thief, a common criminal, and generally bad person.
Perfect example today in the Cleveland Houston game. Cleveland threw a bomb. The safety stood there and just watched. Didn't even try to break it up or anything. So obvious. Number 21 for Houston. Watch that replay. Then Houston had a chance to hit the runner on his way into the end zone. Same thing. Just layed off and let them score.
IMO, you get to ONE ref and you have the game go any way you want. I think in this instance you are confusing laziness with fixing. The idiots these days are just plain lazy if there isn't an opportunity to mug for the camera. They couldn't give a rip if their team wins or loses as long as they get paid. They aren't even trying to hide it.
Quick story. Tony Spilotro told all his friends to bet the White Sox big one time when the Yankees were in town playing. He had taken them out and got them drunk and provided them with everything under the sun. So he's at the game. The Yanks are spanking the Sox. He's pissed. He leaves the game and what do you know? The power is cut to the stadium! I think that's from the book titled, "Mob Cop" A great read.
Soo many players are on the take. You can see it in college now (they are getting paid too). Or sorry am I supposed to say TAGPT? I prefer spelling.
This gambling environment has changed everything. There are so many athletes on the take. You see it in every sport. College hardcore. Think about it. How many college players will go pro? Better throw it now and get your money.
The whole Pete Rose story. Pete Rose is a one of one player. He was coined Charlie Hustle because he was. Just like was stated here. Fool never gave less than 100 percent. Ever. Old school bad ***. Ever seen Dick Butkiss not hit someone? Singletary? Ever seen Dan Issel or Doctor J not drive the lane? So many.
Tell me how many professional athletes beat their women. But that's OK? I watch professional sports in all types. You can see people lay off all day long. It sucks.
Go look at the video of that first long pass in the Cleveland Brown's game. Look at number 21 for Houston. He stood back and did nothing. That would have never happened in my years watching the NFL. People would clock you. 21 actually holds his hands back. He was in a perfect position to hit and dislodge that ball. Who is paying slash owning him to not make that hit?
If you are addicted to gambling call blah blah blah...
Last edited by no1oldsfan; December 24th, 2023 at 11:30 PM.
It's wild how the landscape of sports has shifted, right? The whole TAGPT era brings a different vibe to the game. And you nailed it with the Pete Rose shoutout—Charlie Hustle was on another level! But yeah, the dynamics have changed, and not always for the better. Watching athletes hold back is a tough pill to swallow. On a lighter note, ever considered shaking things up and trying to play live casino? Might be a whole new kind of thrill without the behind-the-scenes drama.
Last edited by EdwardClark; December 29th, 2023 at 01:22 AM.
***-hats like Kapernick screwed it up for everyone in the recent era. Poor loser. All this social justice stuff he started with his whining does not belong in pro sports. There's a place for that and it's not on the playing field. That's the reason to watch sports, as an escape from the retarded **** in the world that someone's always crying about. IDGAF about pro sports any longer after that went down. And now I'm hearing that college players can get paid, etc.? They're out, too. You get paid or allowed to make money from your game then you are a professional in my book, end of story. I've never seen another NHL, or NBA game since that EVER. And won't. Tennis and soccer just isn't interesting to me, neither is watching someone else play golf. I've never seen an entire NFL game nor MLB game since, and those were the sports I used to watch a lot. Not anymore. Every now and again I may watch snippets of an NFL or MLB game. I don't even bother buying any team swag any longer. The only time I ever know who's in the playoffs most of the time is if I accidently run across it somewhere. I was shocked to find out yesterday the Cleveland Browns actually will finish with a winning record this year? Who'd have thunk it? I don't even care.
As for Pete Rose, he got caught with his gambling. I cry no tears for him over his HOF ban. He had a HOF-worthy playing career but always remember HE was the one who made bad choices and f*cked it up for himself. He also agreed to the lifetime ban, so he should just STFU about it and focus on something else in his life that's worth something, like family and friends. He'll die never making it to the HOF. If he'd have just walked away quietly after his playing days, he'd be able to sign his autographs with "HOF" behind it. His fault. Move on, Petey.
Don't bet on sports. It's tempting, but you have no idea for sure if games are actually being tweaked or not.
Funny thing about Kapernick is he sucks. People want to blame his not playing on his politics. No he sucks as a player. He has has what 15 tryouts? Nope sorry you suck.
My take on players throwing games. Look at San Francisco's number 33 on the winning touchdown. He was in the perfect position to block that ball. Zero attempt. Just watches it go by.
What in the he** is TAGPT??
I really miss words.
Last edited by no1oldsfan; February 17th, 2024 at 08:07 AM.
Kapernick still sucks...
It so isn't racist. It is that he sucks. He has had what fifteen tryouts? No you suck. So many want to say it is racial. No. He sucks as a quartback. Admit that.
Yep, Kapernick killed it for me. Those mf'ers make millions of dollars. You want to raise awareness? Make a difference where you came from with your millions of dollars you get for playing catch.
On the plus side, I spend all that money on car parts, now. Baseball, nascar, golf, and bass fishing are good background noises for a nap, if I get time for one.
Kaepernick did not suck. Getting drafted into the NFL is a pretty exclusive club. Becoming a starting quarterback is even more exclusive, and then leading the team to the superbowl puts and then a follow up NFC championship game puts him in a really exclusive club. He had success most only dream about.
I also agree that he did not suck. He made it to the NFL, and you can't do that and suck. However, with all of the hoopla over why was he not picked up by other teams, people keep forgetting a few things. At the time when he decided to take a knee, he was the 3rd string QB on the team. He was demoted because he was a one trick pony and defenses had figured him out. He could not read opposing schemes and if his first read was not open, he would run...always. True, he had a cannon for an arm. But if you can not read defenses, that does not mean much. Another reason for not getting picked up is because many teams did not want to deal with all of the media hype and baggage that he would bring with him. Do I think that he might have been blacklisted...probably. But please remember that the NFL is a club, not a company. Even potential owners have to be "voted" in by the other owners.
As for the whole kneeling thing. This is still a free country and you have the right to express yourself. But, and this is the most important thing, you also must be willing to accept the consequences for your own actions. I have the right to tell my boss to go to hell. But he also has the right to fire me for doing that.
I also agree that he did not suck. He made it to the NFL, and you can't do that and suck. However, with all of the hoopla over why was he not picked up by other teams, people keep forgetting a few things. At the time when he decided to take a knee, he was the 3rd string QB on the team. He was demoted because he was a one trick pony and defenses had figured him out. He could not read opposing schemes and if his first read was not open, he would run...always. True, he had a cannon for an arm. But if you can not read defenses, that does not mean much. Another reason for not getting picked up is because many teams did not want to deal with all of the media hype and baggage that he would bring with him. Do I think that he might have been blacklisted...probably. But please remember that the NFL is a club, not a company. Even potential owners have to be "voted" in by the other owners.
As for the whole kneeling thing. This is still a free country and you have the right to express yourself. But, and this is the most important thing, you also must be willing to accept the consequences for your own actions. I have the right to tell my boss to go to hell. But he also has the right to fire me for doing that.
I think he would have benefited from a team change with a fresh set of coaches and a different playbook. With his credentials he would have been picked up pretty quick, but I agree he came with too much baggage and I don't doubt Roger Goodell wanted him out of the league for obvious reasons.
I agree with your sentiments about his kneeling. He had to know it would end his career- that was his choice and his consequences. He does have the right to protest, and he had the nads to do it in a way that got a national response rather than just bitch on twitter. Whether or not he has done anything significant to promote his cause, I have no idea.
Last edited by 66_Jetstar; February 18th, 2024 at 07:29 AM.
However, athletes who excel at their sport (this may exclude Kaepernick) are listened to. Goes with the territory, and for better or worse some feel an obligation to use that bully pulpit, regardless of prevailing attitude among their audience.
As Jim Bouton said, "You're only as smart as your ERA."
66 Jetstar yes he does suck. He had how many tryouts? At least a dozen. He sucks. Plain and simple. Has nothing to do with him taking a knee. He sucks. If he even had a little talent he would be in the NFL. But he doesn't. People twist why he isn't in the league. He isn't a good athlete. White black pink or purple. He sucks. Not one team was scared to sign him because of his politics. They didn't sign him because his talent is blah.
Last edited by no1oldsfan; February 18th, 2024 at 09:02 AM.
The only sports gambling I do are illegal squares and strip cards. I don't care who wins as long my numbers come up.I stopped caring about the Bears, Sox, and Blackhawks years ago.
66 Jetstar yes he does suck. He had how many tryouts? At least a dozen. He sucks. Plain and simple. Has nothing to do with him taking a knee. He sucks. If he even had a little talent he would be in the NFL. But he doesn't. People twist why he isn't in the league. He isn't a good athlete. White black pink or purple. He sucks. Not one team was scared to sign him because of his politics. They didn't sign him because his talent is blah.
Kapernick sucks period. Has nothing to do with race. Has everything to do with lack of talent. For him to have tryout after tryout. Nobody wanted him. Why? Because he sucks.
Last edited by no1oldsfan; February 19th, 2024 at 10:04 AM.
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