1969 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 3 speed Manual
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1969 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 3 speed Manual
Here's the thread on my newly-acquired 69 flattop three-on-the-tree. Car is supposed to be picked up in Phoenix Monday and arrive here by the end of next week. Some photos from the various ads for this car over the last few months. Note that the spare tire well isn't even rusted out. No, that's not white bondo under the peeling paint, it appears to be primer under that apparently housepaint they used.
Note that front bumper doesn't even have the usual tow truck reshaping that they all seem to have. Those missing chrome strips over the rear wheels are unique to 68-69 flattops and are unobtanium. No, Vista trim is not the same. No, four door trim is not the same. I already checked. Likely I'll just dechrome it. More on that later.
Note that front bumper doesn't even have the usual tow truck reshaping that they all seem to have. Those missing chrome strips over the rear wheels are unique to 68-69 flattops and are unobtanium. No, Vista trim is not the same. No, four door trim is not the same. I already checked. Likely I'll just dechrome it. More on that later.
Last edited by joe_padavano; March 8th, 2024 at 03:29 PM.
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While looking for prior ads for the car, I found this car that sold a few years ago. Ironically this is also a three-on-the-tree car and appears to be the same Nassau Blue that mine was originally. This car has a BBO now (likely not the best for longevity of the Saginaw trans). I really like the de-chromed look and the dog dishes. This is a leading candidate for how I want to do mine.
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The car is intended to be a driver, so I don't want to get crazy (no, I've NEVER said that before... )
If it's in as nice shape mechanically as advertised, the immediate work will be cosmetic (interior and hopefully paint). Sure, I'll go through all the rubber parts in the brakes and fuel system, but I'm hoping to avoid major work for now. It definitely needs tires, probably dog dish caps, and certainly power steering (I have all the parts) and an under-dash A/C unit that I also have. I'm sure a 4bbl and dual exhaust will find their way on board as well. And eventually, I have a couple of 403s taking up space... The Saginaw thankfully prevents me from going crazy in the engine bay. I don't know if the Muncie HD 3spd can be retrofitted without re-engineering the shift linkage. I'd really like to swap in a Saginaw with OD if I can find one. Of course, that would make me want to upgrade the rear gears (should be 3.08s currently). Of course, if I do that, I MIGHTASWELL get a posi unit (yeah, for a Type O). And now I'm well on my way down the slippery slope.
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I figure I have to live to be 150 to finish all of mine (and that doesn't count restoring the 300 year old log house we own). It's an incentive to stay healthy.
#19
Nice wagon. Except for the wear, under the hood looks like it was when manufactured. Even the the heat riser pipe and top plate radiator hose clamp are there. Does the engine run like it has 44,000 miles on it? Even if 144,000 miles, that is nothing for a maintained 350 Oldsmobile engine. The outside trim looks good, and highlights the ‘68 body lines. The ‘68 wagon in the photo without the trim looks blah. But that is just my opinion. Enjoy the new ride.
#20
Congratulations Joe, It looks like a very solid flattop with a nice color combination and with a fun pedal. Personally, I think the money was right based on photos. I hope that it provides many miles of smiles.😀 (And zero negative surprises!)
#21
Thanks. We'll know when it gets here. Can't wait to confirm it gets picked up on Monday.
#23
The seller turned me on to Garcia Transport. I've dealt with a lot of auto transporters, and they all suck. This one appears to be different, but we'll see. As I said, promised to pick up Monday and have it here by the end of the week. If this works out, I will definitely promote them. Good, reasonably priced auto transporters are unicorns.
The car is intended to be a driver, so I don't want to get crazy (no, I've NEVER said that before... )
If it's in as nice shape mechanically as advertised, the immediate work will be cosmetic (interior and hopefully paint). Sure, I'll go through all the rubber parts in the brakes and fuel system, but I'm hoping to avoid major work for now. It definitely needs tires, probably dog dish caps, and certainly power steering (I have all the parts) and an under-dash A/C unit that I also have. I'm sure a 4bbl and dual exhaust will find their way on board as well. And eventually, I have a couple of 403s taking up space... The Saginaw thankfully prevents me from going crazy in the engine bay. I don't know if the Muncie HD 3spd can be retrofitted without re-engineering the shift linkage. I'd really like to swap in a Saginaw with OD if I can find one. Of course, that would make me want to upgrade the rear gears (should be 3.08s currently). Of course, if I do that, I MIGHTASWELL get a posi unit (yeah, for a Type O). And now I'm well on my way down the slippery slope.
The car is intended to be a driver, so I don't want to get crazy (no, I've NEVER said that before... )
If it's in as nice shape mechanically as advertised, the immediate work will be cosmetic (interior and hopefully paint). Sure, I'll go through all the rubber parts in the brakes and fuel system, but I'm hoping to avoid major work for now. It definitely needs tires, probably dog dish caps, and certainly power steering (I have all the parts) and an under-dash A/C unit that I also have. I'm sure a 4bbl and dual exhaust will find their way on board as well. And eventually, I have a couple of 403s taking up space... The Saginaw thankfully prevents me from going crazy in the engine bay. I don't know if the Muncie HD 3spd can be retrofitted without re-engineering the shift linkage. I'd really like to swap in a Saginaw with OD if I can find one. Of course, that would make me want to upgrade the rear gears (should be 3.08s currently). Of course, if I do that, I MIGHTASWELL get a posi unit (yeah, for a Type O). And now I'm well on my way down the slippery slope.
Did they ever come with the Cutlass S / 442 hood?
#24
Nope. All F85s (except W31s), four doors, wagons, and Supremes only came the the flat hood.
#25
Best of luck with it. Looks unbelievably solid and unmolested. I'm curious about that wheel arch trim. Might it be possible to make one of the front wheel arch pieces work for the rear? I know the '69 front and rear wheel arches are slightly different curves but the trim piece looks pretty thin and might be massaged to work without too much effort. Of course, I'm assuming the fronts are relatively easy to find vs. the rear.
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Best of luck with it. Looks unbelievably solid and unmolested. I'm curious about that wheel arch trim. Might it be possible to make one of the front wheel arch pieces work for the rear? I know the '69 front and rear wheel arches are slightly different curves but the trim piece looks pretty thin and might be massaged to work without too much effort. Of course, I'm assuming the fronts are relatively easy to find vs. the rear.
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I was actually thinking one could start with the four-door parts, but frankly, when was the last time anyone saw a set of this trim. These are formed thin stainless with a "C"-shaped cross section, open end towards the car. Reforming them won't be easy. Welding up the holes will be a PITA also, however.
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I have MIG and TIG.
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Yeah, despite my warning to the shipping company, the seller had to provide instruction on how to drive a three on the tree. Can't say that I'd surprised. I figure the car is theft-proof.