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Old December 24th, 2021, 06:54 AM
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Stainless restored and polished

I sent all my stainless trim pieces out to be polished and have any and all dents and scratches removed. I have a buffing wheel and I buff some small pcs but all these big pcs need a pro.
Its just like Christmas with everything being wrapped up. How fitting. I want to open everything and look but I think I'll just keep it wrapped up until needed. I did sneak a peak though.







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Old December 24th, 2021, 06:59 AM
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Merry Christmas.
great to see the progress. Who did the trim work for you? How long did it take to get back?
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I did the same thing on my 442.

Makes a huge difference with new paint.
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Old December 24th, 2021, 08:36 AM
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I got referred to this guy who is about an hour from me. I am lucky to be able to drive down there because I would think shipping all this stuff could be pricey? While I was there he showed me hub caps he was shipping to Utah for a customer. He advertises in Hemmings I think he said?
I have yet to unwrap everything but looks good so far. He is not cheap but I've heard of guys more expensive. My stuff was all in pretty good shape with minor scratches and maybe few small dents. He took about two weeks and charged $1,000 cash. If anyone uses him tell him Paul, the guy with the Oldsmobile sent you. I told him I would let people in the Oldsmobile community know of his services.


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That's a good price for all the trim.

A pro does it best.
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Looks like he has a website too:

www.brightworksrestoration.com
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Old December 24th, 2021, 09:37 AM
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Car is looking great!
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Old December 24th, 2021, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by My442
I did the same thing on my 442.

Makes a huge difference with new paint.
You planted that seed in my head

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Car is looking great!
Thanks Joe, for your help with trans too
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Old December 25th, 2021, 04:18 PM
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Thanks Paul. I do appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by scrappie
You planted that seed in my head



Thanks Joe, for your help with trans too
Any time. Let me know if any more help is needed. Keep up the great work.
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Trans and shifter

While I'm going through the transmission, I might as well rebuild the Hurst shifter too. I've taken everything apart and blasted all shifter parts and linkage. I've done a bit of research on the correct plating of the shifter and linkage. I believe it comes down to one of two finishes: cadmium or natural. I bought a reverse lockout rod that is cad plated so I guess I will try to match that and plate shifter linkage gold copy cad and shifter parts black oxide or phosphate. After blasting everything I wire wheeled the linkage because I believe it takes the zinc plating better this way. I will leave the shifter parts with the basted finish for phosphate or black oxide.
I should have the transmission case and bell housing back this week from hydro blast so I can start putting that back together soon. I'm curious to see how that came out.











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WOW, your doing an amazing job!!
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Old December 26th, 2021, 05:30 PM
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WOW, your doing an amazing job!!
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Yea, I think things cleaned up REAL good!
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Vapor blasted transmission

I'm not sure why but I really am amazed at the job a vapor blaster can do on aluminum. I sent these pcs out that were painted blue and the bell housing had a layer of grime which made it hard to tell what material it was. Dave Mattice of metal revel in NY did the job once again like my intake and I couldn't be happier. I shipped to him and he had it the next day, same time coming back to me. The price was more than reasonable and I should have tipped him. I can now get to putting this thing back together.
Here are some before and after pics:








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Old December 28th, 2021, 05:20 PM
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Parts look great and Vapor blasting is awesome
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wow those do look nice.

Will you do any prep to them to retain the finish ?
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Old December 29th, 2021, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
wow those do look nice.

Will you do any prep to them to retain the finish ?
No plans for anything that I know of right now as far as a coating or anything. I think I will just go ah-natural and let it weather naturally like my intake unless I learn of something. I'd hate to wreck it by clearing it with something that changes it.

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Old December 29th, 2021, 07:51 AM
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Fastener I.D.

Can anybody tell me the correct name for these or better yet where I can get?
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I'm not sure what they're called but believe those clips as well as the bushings come in a Hurst rebuild kit that I used to get back in the day?? They might be callled a spring clip? Not sure though.
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Ace hardware?
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Most rebuild kits I find dont have the old style stuff and Inline is out of stock.
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Cotter hairpin clip
or

hitch pin clip

tractor supply, ace, tru value all have a good assortment although w a different finish,
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Yes, thx hairpin cotter pin is what I’m coming up with also.
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Old December 29th, 2021, 11:20 AM
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Check with Russ Young here:

https://4speedconversions-com.3dcartstores.com/
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He may not have the hair pin clips either....I'd call him.
https://4speedconversions-com.3dcart...244707_r1.html

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The only place that has the correct phosphate hair pin clip is heart beat city camaro.
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Originally Posted by joesw31
The only place that has the correct phosphate hair pin clip is heart beat city camaro.
Thanks Joe!
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The only place that has the correct phosphate hair pin clip is heart beat city camaro.
Heartbeat's GM # 1351769 crosses to current GM #12338114. This may help with your decision.
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Have you re-colored your shifter and linkage?
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I'm not sure what they're called but believe those clips as well as the bushings come in a Hurst rebuild kit that I used to get back in the day?? They might be callled a spring clip? Not sure though.
No. The aftermarket Hurst shifters are totally different from the factory GM Hurst shifters.

The biggest difference is that the GM shifters use rubber bushings with a hairpin clip and small Belleville washer to attach the shifter arms. Hurst uses solid bushings and a spring clip.

The GM shifter handle attaches with a bayonet type bracket. The Hurst handles bolt on.

And, there is no stop bolt on the GM shifters.

Parts are not interchangeable.

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Have you re-colored your shifter and linkage?
Not yet
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no. The aftermarket hurst shifters are totally different from the factory gm hurst shifters.

The biggest difference is that the gm shifters use rubber bushings with a hairpin clip and small belleville washer to attach
the shifter arms.

The gm shifter handle attaches with a bayonet type bracket. The hurst handles bolt on.

And, there is no stop bolt on the gm shifters.

Parts are not interchangeable.
^^^^this^^^^
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GM Hurst shifter bases are stamped "3138".

Handle is 7169 for a console.
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Originally Posted by My442
GM Hurst shifter bases are stamped "3138".

Handle is 7169 for a console.
I agree:



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Restoring some parts

I spent the day today plating my Hurst shifter pcs that I recently bead blasted with a zinc phosphate. The coating looks pretty good I think. I used the zinc phosphate from palmetto enterprises. I also have black phosphated some parts in the past with stuff from Caswell. I used some of that today on bolts and springs. The zinc phosphate from Palmetto requires you to heat the solution to 190-200 degrees and soak the parts about 10 minutes. I zinc phosphated shifter parts and most of hood latch. I black oxide coated the latch springs and bolts. After shifter parts were done I rebuilt the shifter with all new rebuild parts. I then put the hood latch back together. I will cross these two things off the list for now. My next plating will be the shifter rods and linkage which I plan on a zinc cadmium from Caswell.
















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Notice the bushing slots are keyed for rubber bushings.

GM used rubber bushings for less NVH in the cabin.
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Rebuilt the transmission

Got the trans all put back together this weekend. Everything seems to be working smoothly and I still have some plating to do on the shifter linkage and bolts to replace on trans but once thats done I will assemble that also. I'm looking forward to getting the motor back a lot now but in the mean time I still have plenty to do.















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Scrappie always amazed at your abilities. Trany now looks nothing like it did before. The gasket set looks familiar, Super661?
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Scrappie always amazed at your abilities. Trany now looks nothing like it did before. The gasket set looks familiar, Super661?
Thank you and yes sir on the gaskets. I bought the rebuild kit from them. He has a great book also that is a must if one is messing with these transmissions.
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Then I suspect you plan to run Driven in the case? I think you will like it....
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