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Old January 7th, 2014, 12:21 PM
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Talking new guy possibly with a 74 olds hurst 455

hey havent been on in years used to have a 1980 cutlass with a 425 thats why that is my name lol well i love oldsmobiles and right now i have a 1992 camaro z28 tpi 350 and there is a guy willing to trade me for a 1974 oldsmobile cutlass w-30 car i havent seen it in person but the pics look legit it has the dual gate shifter and 455 with a.c im going to check it out in a week or so and if it looks as good as it does in the pics im going to get it i also have a set of c casting 455 heads rebuilt just been waiting to put onto something lol
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Welcome back, sounds like decent trade. Post some pics.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
hey havent been on in years used to have a 1980 cutlass with a 425 thats why that is my name lol well i love oldsmobiles and right now i have a 1992 camaro z28 tpi 350 and there is a guy willing to trade me for a 1974 oldsmobile cutlass w-30 car i havent seen it in person but the pics look legit it has the dual gate shifter and 455 with a.c im going to check it out in a week or so and if it looks as good as it does in the pics im going to get it i also have a set of c casting 455 heads rebuilt just been waiting to put onto something lol
I dont mean to sound like an arzhole,,,,
Do you know what you are looking at or for? Vin , cowls, and dates that pertain to the 74 w30 and HUrst/Olds? Im not as versed on 74's as in the previuos year but I do know a bit or could put you in touch with those who do if you would like.
AnyH/O good luck and keep us posted!

Since I first posted you added pictures.... The 74 inside and outside window blanks are missing? How about all the 74 specific top and targa trim? Impossible to find ! Hope its with the car? What grill does it have and front clip?

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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:24 PM
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If its not a bondo bucket, I'd do it in a minute ! Looks clean.....welcome back!
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:25 PM
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It has the louvers in hood the dual gate shifter a 455 I wouldn't think somebody would clone this year but you never know I'm no expert any advice would be appreciated
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Old January 7th, 2014, 01:28 PM
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He said it has 40, 000 miles I asked why he wanted to trade I guess he inherited from his father who passed away and he can't drive it everyday and he really don't like oldsmobiles
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Don't have a pic of front and ya idk why the top is missing
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Old January 7th, 2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
It has the louvers in hood the dual gate shifter a 455 I wouldn't think somebody would clone this year but you never know I'm no expert any advice would be appreciated
All 1974 442s came with the louvered hood, not just H/Os. Unfortunately, without additional documentation, it looks like a 74 442 that's had the dual gate added and emblems stuck on after a repaint. As noted, the original 1974 exterior parts (opera window frames, targa band) are impossible to find. If this is a real H/O, you will want documentation and the price should reflect the value of the missing parts. Of course, a real 1974 442 with a factory installed 455 (as proven by the letter "U" in the fifth place of the VIN) is still worth something.
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Old January 7th, 2014, 02:41 PM
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The slight glipse of interior looks good. As said, lot of top stuff missing and good luck finding replacement trim.

If it is indead a '74 W30 H/O with 455 the VIN code should be a "V" (U-code is Cutlass, 442). Lots of engine details specific to the H/O that would be hard to find also. "OX" trans ID is specific also.

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Old January 7th, 2014, 03:28 PM
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Old January 7th, 2014, 03:32 PM
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ok thanks for the info ill share vin id once i know what it is
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Old January 7th, 2014, 04:13 PM
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Trade for a 92 camaro?
Ummm...Yes...Good luck
on the deal, I wouldn't hesitate,
clone or no. 455 and a dual-gate,
and you have a set of C's ready to go?
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Way more fun than a plastic Camero.

I am a little biased though, I had a 74 442
with a 350, and also owned a 73 H/O with
a 455. If you haven't driven/owned one of
the 73-77's, ther'e not for everyone, but
pretty sweet in their own right.

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Old January 7th, 2014, 05:02 PM
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Lol I've always been a olds guy if its solid I'm sure I'll trade him its driving me nuts I'm ready to go check it out but all this snow is holding me back camaro doesn't do so well in it
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Welcome, looks like a good deal to me.
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Also have a guy wanting to trade me a 1986 442 with a 403 in it I'm just not a fan of that engine better than a 307 I guess though....I put my car on craigslist asking for a olds trade that's how I'm getting offers
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Old January 7th, 2014, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
... right now i have a 1992 camaro z28 tpi 350 and there is a guy willing to trade me for a 1974 oldsmobile cutlass w-30 car
Originally Posted by 425cutty
Also have a guy wanting to trade me a 1986 442 with a 403 in it I'm just not a fan of that engine better than a 307 I guess though....I put my car on craigslist asking for a olds trade that's how I'm getting offers

smart man I would take either of those trades !!!!
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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:21 AM
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Just sent pic of title and the fifth letter is a V !!!
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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:36 AM
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Just sent pic of title and the fifth letter is a V !!!
DO IT!
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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:56 AM
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Well hopefully he wants to trade my camaro isn't perfect but its pretty nice runs great
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Old January 9th, 2014, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
Just sent pic of title and the fifth letter is a V !!!
It is definately a good deal to pick up. My only concern is does it have any paperwork to say its a Hurst/Olds? My guess is that its a 442 which is still an awesome car.
I just dont want you to get scrwed thinking its a H/O...
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Old January 9th, 2014, 12:32 PM
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Don't think he has any paperwork it is w30 option for sure
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Old January 9th, 2014, 02:19 PM
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Welcome to CO. H/O or 442, go for it. Ditto on what's been stated in regards to the '74 H/O specifics.

Out of curiosity...how are you sure it's a W30 without any Documentation to authenticate it's pedigree and what are your plans for the car?
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Old January 9th, 2014, 04:12 PM
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The 5th letter in the vin is a V witch is a w30 455 option from what was said above and from what I can find on internet not sure what ill do with it I have to make the trade first lol...I'm no expert but it has 15 inch wheels hurst dual gate
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
Just sent pic of title and the fifth letter is a V !!!
That's what you needed to know! In 74, only the H/O W30 had a V designation for the engine code. It sounds like it is a true W30 but is missing alot of H/O trim which will be very hard to replace. Not sure what the engine looks like but I sure hope it still has the dual snorkel air cleaner. Good luck. I hope you end up with the car.
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Ya it sucks its missing all the trim he didn't have a pic of the engine bay but I will keep updating the more I find out
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Old January 18th, 2014, 08:52 PM
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Soooooo whats going on with the car?
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Old January 18th, 2014, 11:02 PM
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I spoke to you on the phone a month or two ago about this car.
Are your intentions to still sell the '74 after the trade because you think its worth more than the '92?
These cars are a tough sell... especially without the decals and targa top.
Try www.73-77olds.com for more info.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 12:52 PM
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I dont know guy was acting interested said he works alot haven't heard from him in a couple weeks weather has been crap also if I traded I probably would keep it I have a good set of heads and a 4 barrel intake would make it fun and are you guy from Indiana with the 86 442?
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Old February 5th, 2014, 03:55 PM
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Someones yanking someones timing chain....
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4310092418.html
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^^^No interior shots, no mention of the
Hurst dual-gate. Hmmm... Looks just like the
74 442 I had in high school. But at least this
one has H/O emblems where mine had the 442 emblems.
Hmmm....
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And he only wants $1 for it.
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Current Craigslist ad in Chicago it looks like a perfect summer day. Anyhow the car looks like lots of poor body work done to driver's side rear qtr.
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Good eye with that left quarter.. Looks like the body line gets lost after the rear door on the drivers side...
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Old February 8th, 2014, 10:03 AM
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Ya I noticed body work in pic too he sent pic of title and interior to me it does have dual gate and it is a hurst but he says he always works no time so dont look like I'm getting it he is the one that got a hold of me and made the offer o well I will find something to put my 455 in have guy still willing to trade his 86 442 with the 403 in it
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Screw it I'm gonna put my 455 in my camaro lol
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Old February 8th, 2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 425cutty
Screw it I'm gonna put my 455 in my camaro lol
Well at least your thinking clearly now.....
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