What is all involved in swapping a TKX 5 spd in a 1970 Cutlass S?
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What is all involved in swapping a TKX 5 spd in a 1970 Cutlass S?
It is a bench seat, factory TH350 car. It looks like the transmission, think wide ratio to go with the 3.08 posi going in the Type O. I know pedals, hydraulic clutch, bellhousing, clutch, mount, 31 spline yoke/driveshaft and shifter. Does it need a special crossmember? It also looks like it needs a Dakota adapter for the speedo? I believe my 330 crank is factory set up to take the manual trans pilot bushing. I realize an easy 5K swap and properly built 2004R or 4L80E is 3/4 of that price. Any input or parts missing would be great. The crank is at the machine shop, now is the time to modify it.
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I got mine from Silver Sport Transmissions because I liked their installation package - comes with everything you need to install, and I got a hydraulic clutch from them as well. I figure that saved me trying to scrounge up all the random used parts, hoping I got the right ones and they were serviceable, etc. It uses the stock crossmember and comes with a trans mount in the package I bought. I'm not sure if the crossmember needs to be relocated.
Check with the transmission vendor if they have what's needed for the Dakota gauges. I decided to use a GPS speedometer and haven't had to look into that part of things.
Have you calculated your RPMs in the gears at various speeds? I didn't think the 3.08 I had would be well geared and went with 3.73s based on conversations with the tech at Silver Sport. There are various calculators online, but these are the numbers I came up with based on running 255/60R15's which have a 27 inch diameter. (Speed in MPH)
Although not critical (for some), you'll want to find a floor shift collar for your steering column to eliminate the automatic gear selector. If you're sticking with the bench seat you may find getting a good stick shift a bit more challenging.
Check with the transmission vendor if they have what's needed for the Dakota gauges. I decided to use a GPS speedometer and haven't had to look into that part of things.
Have you calculated your RPMs in the gears at various speeds? I didn't think the 3.08 I had would be well geared and went with 3.73s based on conversations with the tech at Silver Sport. There are various calculators online, but these are the numbers I came up with based on running 255/60R15's which have a 27 inch diameter. (Speed in MPH)
Although not critical (for some), you'll want to find a floor shift collar for your steering column to eliminate the automatic gear selector. If you're sticking with the bench seat you may find getting a good stick shift a bit more challenging.
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I was looking at the 3.27, 1.98, 1.34, 1.00 and .72 with the 3.00 reverse. I will check with a calculator but it looks good to me with a 28" tall 275/60R15 tire. Thanks for your input.
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It obviously depends on the type of driving and use the car will see. My best advice is once you've done your research, give them a call and have a chat to see what they have to say.
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I'll second Silver Sport Transmission. I got the 6-speed kit from them to convert auto to manual, with the hydraulic clutch. Their customer service really is top notch. It took a long time to get my trans in, as other projects were ongoing, but they were still readily available and helpful well after point of sale.
Be aware, with a 28" tall tire, 3.08s, and a .72 overdrive, you'll really be struggling to get much use out of 5th gear. You'll be turning 2000 RPM at 75 mph. If that works for you, go for it.
Be aware, with a 28" tall tire, 3.08s, and a .72 overdrive, you'll really be struggling to get much use out of 5th gear. You'll be turning 2000 RPM at 75 mph. If that works for you, go for it.
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It should work, the 10ish to 1 first gear and the .72 OD gear. Yes, the roller cam is below 220 duration, 218/218, 1600 rpm to 2000 rpm should be about perfect cruise rpm. I ran a 214/214 cam with a 25" tall tire, .68 OD and 2.78 gears. 1500 to 1700 rpm highway cruising, OK mileage and power. I also had Mark do up my RPM for SEFI, should help drivability and mileage.
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It should work, the 10ish to 1 first gear and the .72 OD gear. Yes, the roller cam is below 220 duration, 218/218, 1600 rpm to 2000 rpm should be about perfect cruise rpm. I ran a 214/214 cam with a 25" tall tire, .68 OD and 2.78 gears. 1500 to 1700 rpm highway cruising, OK mileage and power. I also had Mark do up my RPM for SEFI, should help drivability and mileage.
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