hurst68olds

If there were only 100 made: then for practical purposes it's NOT correct for anyone's car. Must have been a problem and the solution was to use another carb & number for that application. What's the date & where's the pictures?


Sounds like a conversation piece & NOT overly valuable.

GM parts guy

I have been told 100?Who really knows with this rare carb, I think less were made.The 7028253 was a mid to late run carb.They used the 7028251 before the 253s.Look it up the books have this listed,but not all books.Thats what makes this one in a million.The pics will be when I list it on ebay.People like to fake rare parts?You should call around for a 253 and see what happens?They are 1968 442 4 speed carbs ONLY.Its the rarest 1968 Olds carb EVER made.Whats great about this carb,is your car could have come with the 251 or 253?You will NEVER find a original 253!!!!!This 253 is ALWAYS a conversation piece,and overly valuable!You live in vegas,are you a betting man?I am!

66-3X2 442

If you want to be the only guy with a carb and it makes you feel better,that's fine with me. Tell me how you know Jerry didn't have the carb. I know Jerry as well as anybody and he's 76 years old and every time I had somebody looking for a rare carb,he had to go look. He didn't keep an inventory list,so he had to check every time. His storage burned about two years ago,did you check with him before then? if you didn't,there's no way he could have known if he had one or not. Congrats on having possibly the only carb in existence but if they made one,they made two,so keep that in mind. Like I said,Hollander Interchange recognizes the 253 carb and they get information from wrecking yards,so if they have seen it,somebody else has seen it too. I have a NOS 66 NOS dash side mount tach,the gurus I know have never seen one after documenting these cars for decades. It's only worth so much and I would imagine it's worth as much or more than the carb but you know what,I woke up this morning the same old guy I've always been.

allyolds68

It's the car that makes a carburetor valuable not the rarity of the carb. 68 442's were one of the highest production Oldsmobiles of the era and the 7028251 is also a correct carb. I think you should keep it and snuggle up with it at night.

wmachine

The 7028253 carb is not really anything special. It uses a combination of parts found on the other carbs with the only exclusive part being the primary jets that are easily changed. So a 251 and 252 carb can easily be built or rebuilt to 253 specs which is exactly what I am doing. As far as I'm concerned, that is what makes the carb correct: having correct components. Not a number 3 stamped anywhere. If someone want to pay big bucks for a stamped number, it is their money to burn.

GM parts guy

First off I called jerry about 4 years ago,about a 253.He said he did not have one in stock,cant remember ever seeing a 253?As far as 1968 442 being so many made?They made very few stick cars,between the auto and the 3 speed stick car, 4 speeds were not that many?And as far as the 251 252 being made from 253 specs,thats all good.It helps keep the 253 going up in price,because nobody can find one so they are making one.The 3 might not mean anything to some people,but the 3 makes all the differance to the guy that wants what NOBODY else can find.It sets his car apart from every other 68 442 stick car.Anybody can get the 251,Nobody can get the 253!I will have to end this by saying,its not the car thats makes the part rare.Its the part that makes the car rare?Think about it.

wmachine

14,210 stick 442s were made in 1968. More than any other year.
No, I'd definitely say that it is the part that makes the part rare, not the part number.

11971four4two

i like pictures

GM parts guy

Its always about the part number.If not,then they wouldnt have put out part numbers to begin with?If Olds made over 14000 68 442 stick cars,and this is the ONLY 253 to be found WOW.

GM parts guy

I just got a call from a women that says she has a 7028253?She said they sold a 253 to some guy in Illinois 3 years ago,but cant remember his name or where in Illinois he lives?She is going to email me some pics this weekend.We will see if its real?I really dont think she has the ghost,but we will see what she has.Then I will have 2 rare 253s?We shall see!

dnmfranco

I think you are missing the point here in regards to 68 442's.
As mentioned biggest production year and more importantly they do not get big money comparatively to other years.
For instance 68 Hurst Olds doesn't get as much as 69's; 68 Ram Rods don't get as much as 70 W-31's and this continues on down the line.

There is proven data for this in previous auctions and ect.
So owners of 68's such as myself have come to love them but none of us are going to retire on a sale of one - not even remotely close.

So with this being said it really doesn't matter what you have because as mentioned the cars in themselves are not incredibly valuable.
Now if this 1970 we were talking about, different story you would have a piece of gold.

Matter of fact I bet your 253 would not get as much as a 68 255 used on Ram Rods and non a/c Hurst Olds. Those go for 1000.00 give or take.
So yes rare but hardly means instant jack pot not w regards to 68 A bodies hate to burst your bubble.

Tell you what put it on ebay , announce to everyone before hand and see where it goes to that will tell you what it is worth.

Really you will be surprised of what you don't get for it, matter of fact if you got over a 1000.00 I would be the first to admit I am wrong.

Good luck

GM parts guy

I get it 1968 was the new body and first year 442 was not an option but a car. You said the 255 carbs are about as rare and worth 1000.00.But what you forgot to say is the 251-254-255 carbs are for sale,and can be found.So if thats true,and the 255 is worth 1000.00.What is the 253 really worth since it cant be found?I know they made a crap load of 4 speed 442 cars in 1968.So my question is are all the 68 sticks cars that had the 253 carb gone forever,never to be seen again?Where did they all go,and why are the other rare carbs 251-254-255 still around.And as far as ebay.I cant find anyone who has sold a 7028253,to compare price they sold for.One guy sells a 253 for 350.00.The next week someone sells a 253 for 850.00.Then 5 weeks later you find out the real value is 3000.00.Ebay is NOT a place to get real prices for rare parts,its a shot in the dark at best.The guy that takes his 68 to the nationals or barrett jackson will get the big money if ALL numbers match.The guy looking your engine over with his clip board will notice your carb numbers, you can bet on that.How nice would it be to have the only 253 at the nats or jackson with your car for sale.

hurst68olds

It would be incorrect to be on the car - as it is NOT the correct carb as factory built.

dnmfranco

Its worth what someone will obviously pay for it hence the Ebay example.
And at the last Olds nationals I went to they didn't check carb numbers cant speak on Barrett Jackson's protocol.

nsnarsk65cutlass

Betting man just for conversation here can you post some pictures of this one and only carb in existance?Thanks Nick

GM parts guy

I know they check numbers at Barrett Jackson.If you have a car for National judging as a original car,best original.They will check your numbers.I went to the Corvette Nats in bloomington Il.They check in places you and I would never even think of looking.Its like having a 70 with the W27 rear end,and nobody notices at national judging?The right guy with the rarest 68 442 is looking for the rare factory original parts.So his car is worth more than yours?Lets face it.When you put rare and cant find it anywhere together, you have priceless.You can have rare,and you can have cant find it.But put the two together and you have what nobody else has.But everybody wants.Well everybody did until I came on this web site with a real 253.Now nobody cares or wants one?WOW sounds alittle funny.But now the 253 isnt worth that much so I hear!

GM parts guy

Hey Nick.I am not going to post any more pice of the ghost.Kurt,Dean,Mike and others have seen the pics.I would not be taking so much flack if it was not real!I talked with a lady today who said she has a 7028253 for sale.She is going to send me some pics this weekend.She said they sold one 3 years ago to some guy in IL?I think it going to be fake.They said the date code is on the main body.It should be on the base.Thats why its nice to have a original to compare with all the fakes for sale.I may send those pics out.

GM parts guy

hurst68olds.I take it you couldnt find a 253 carb anywhere?Let me tell you dude.This carb gos by a date code.The date codes have windows.Those windows cover 1 or 2 weeks either before or after?People on this web site have cars this carb will work for date codes.Thats where numbers come in.Numbers, date codes thats all that matters.So do your home work before you talk any more bull.This carb will work for many 442s.Nobody cares if it didnt come on the car.Do the date codes match with your car??????Thats the money shot.

4-Speed

Personally, I believe this carb will only go down in value. In another 10 + years the generation behind us could really care less about a 1 of ???? "rare" carb along with many other "rare" parts and cars.

GM parts guy

Thats where your wrong.Someone somewhere will ALWAYS have a 1968 442 4 speed car.Do you go to car shows?Look around at the 40-50-60-70 year old cars?Really.Do you think if someone with a 50 year old car could buy something nobody else has they would not spend the money,to make more money.This will only go up in $$$$$.I dont know if you know this or not,but dont tell anybody. They dont make these cars or parts anymore.So in 10 years from now your saying they wont be worth crap!All the rare cars and parts are crap.Well I will buy everyones W30-W31, 442, ram rods,MUST be 4 speed cars only.I will pay 300.00 a car CASH.Because they wont be worth crap down the road so cut your loss now,sell me your crap.I HAVE CASH NOW.PS I will pay 50 cents for rare parts carbs,W27 rear ends,ram air hoods and so on.Oldsmobile will never DIE,only the owners.

GM parts guy

I got a phone call today.Guess what.They sold the 7028253 2 months ago,so no pics coming?How that seems to be everbodys deal right now.I have one,Oh I already sold it.So I get another call this afternoon from a guy I found on the net.He said he can find me a 7028253 carb from his friend?I also gave him my email for pics?What do you want to bet,this also falls short.I am still looking for one, are you?

RetroRanger

how much did they get for it ?

66-3X2 442

So I take a carb to Jerry for a rebuild today and I asked him about 'the call' about the 253 carb. He said somebody called about a week ago but that's the only call he's had about 'the carb'. I know Jerry and he tells it straight,I don't know you so I think you're on some kind of fairy tale trip about this carb and it's worth. I really don't give a flyin monkeys @$$ if they did or didn't make the 253 carb. Anybody would be a fool to pay big $$$ for a 253 when a 251 is as or more correct than a 253. You need to show us how much it's worth by putting it up for sale on eBay.

GM parts guy

The guy said it would not be right to give out customer info?So the next one he gets,he will call me first?I dont think he ever had one to sell in the first place thats why he didnt price it until he could find it.Oh I have one for sure?Sorry sold it 2 months ago.RIGHT.As far as jerry.I talked with him or whoever almost 4 years ago.While you were talking did you ask him about ever having a 253 ever?I did call him twice 2 weeks ago,and never even got a call back from him.Thats a great way to run a business!Ask him if he remembers he was going to call me back.And as far as the right carb is the 251,nobodys going to pay big money for a 253?I will tell you what.I will find you ALL the 251s you can buy.Then you find me all the 253s I can buy.I would say thats one heck of a deal for you.What the heck its only a 253 right.Its going on ebay.But first its going to the B.O.P.C show this sunday.Its outside chicago,and chicago area has alot of Olds clubs.I know the guy from the quad shop,and others selling q-jets will also be vending.I will also be selling rare Olds parts.So come on down.

GM parts guy

I just found a 7028251 on ebay for 200.00.Item number 271398331903.I would say thats cheap?Or is that about the right price.I said this before I will say it again.Putting rare parts or any parts on ebay and trying to figure the value is a crap shoot at best.You have a rare part,any part.And nobody can find one.So you put yours on ebay for 850.00 and sell it super fast.So now the price is 850.00.Because it sold on ebay for 850.00.But the next guy to come along he pays 3500.00 for something you got 850.00 for?So is the price now 3500.00?Did you just screw yourself with no kiss?Or could it be he paid what it was really worth. Because you did not know how rare it was or its value.So you just blew 2650.00.But you learned something about ebay.Its a crap shoot at best!!!

nsnarsk65cutlass

That's a good point,imo what anything is worth is what someone is willing to pay,period.Nick

GM parts guy

But Nick you cant let people steal your parts on ebay.I know its worth what someone will pay.But Xmas is long gone.And would someone PLEASE help hurst68olds out.He has his head so far up this own butt he cant see whats going on around him.But the best one yet is.[You need to put this on ebay so everybody can see whats is worth].Really I HAVE TO!WOW I have a dad and a mom,and a girl friend.So I guess your job is already taken.So at 55 I guess I can handel what I NEED TO DO when I need to do it?NOBODY at my age is going to do WHAT anybody says they have to do!Just ask my family and friends.You will get a ear full, and then some for sure.

allyolds68

Hurst68olds is completely correct and you are wrong. Please go away.

Octania

If GM_parts_guy says he has one I believe it

I have searched off and on for this "ghost" as he calls it for lo these many years. Lots of rumors and stories and "just missed it" but no actual carbs, nor any photos of one. Until GM_parts_guy shared his photos.

The only difference between this carb and the "Solid Main Web 403" myths is the part where one of these carbs actually exists and is owned by a verifiable person.

66-3X2 442

I for one don't care if he has it or not,what it's worth or not worth. My point is he's trying to convince everybody he has the only 253 in captivity and it's worth. I don't want pictures of it,I don't care but he's making a complete jerk out of himself over this carb. I've had 5-66 OAI OEM air cleaners and that didn't make me anybody,so why should this carb make him somebody?

dnmfranco

Now that is impressive having that amount of 66 air cleaners!!!!!

That beats out a replacement carb that's worth a few hundred .

Octania

Well, to me that just proves parts guy's point.
Anyone can find tricarb air cleaners.
I have one - sort of

How many have '8253 carbs?
(not rumors or stories, but an actual carb)

Yeah

as for the price, supply and demand is hard to apply when the supply is ONE and the demand is - ????

He likes it to the tune of $xx and someone needs it to the tune of $yy. Standards vary. To me, $100 bills are hard to come by so I shopped for YEARS to find a '8254 I could buy. Whereas, if Jay Leno wants a '8253 carb, he need only pay what the seller wants. To him, $100 bills are easy to come by.

You can kind of see why gm parts guy is pretty sure he has a rare carb. Because until he shared, NOT EVEN PHOTOS existed in general circulation. Just stories.

66-3X2 442

I wish i had them back. I was very fortunate to find a few of them back in the day. See,I can prove what I'm saying.
I know it's only 4 and I said 5,but hey,who's counting?

GM parts guy

There are concours cars with numbers Matching and Date code matching,with parts that didnt come on that car from the factory?You 68olds guys need to do your home work.Heres something you should know,but dont.Unless that was your first new car,or YOU put that carb on that car at the factory and kept tabs on it for all these years.You cant tell if that carb is original to that car?????For the last time.ITS THE DATE CODES that matter,Not if it came from a certain car.You have 3 of the same cars SAME everything on these cars, made a week apart.Now take all 3 carbs off and put them on the others?So you are going to tell me and everybody on classic olds you could tell which carb went with which car?If you can do that,stay off of here and play the lotto.Thats cool you have 5 OAI air cleaners,but would be way cooler is 5 intakes 15 matching number carbs and the linkage.You collect air cleaners,I collect posi rears and muscle car hoods,and 253 carbs.I just had to throw that in.

GM parts guy

Dean its not a replacement carb?Its in the books,you should know that.

dnmfranco

Wow so if I am not mistaken 54 w-30s made ???
Were these from them or dealer installed cars as well either way that's unreal .
Lol saw Ron Memmer at Sturbridge Nationals he had an NOS one for 3500 lol

66-3X2 442

I had cleaner # 40 from one of the 54 factory cars. I had #78 and 3 other second design dealer installed cleaners. I forgot I had one of the original 54 factory cars,#29 belonged to me @ one point in time. So that actually means I had 6 of the cleaners at some point. I've had probably 25 + Tri Carb units over the years and I still have 3 of them right now.

The cleaner Memmer had @ Sturbridge was actually a NOS 67 cleaner that belonged to me. I had it @ his spot trying to sell it. That's the year he got flooded out during one hell of a rain storm.

66-3X2 442

Dude,I could bury you with the cars & parts I've had over the years. I had 10 or more 1970 & 1971/72 OAI hoods against the wall. A couple of W-27 rears etc. You ask anybody who knows me about the stuff I've moved over the years and they will tell you so. I just threw that in too.

I'm not trying to get into a pi$$ing match with you or anybody else about cars or parts. No car or part has made anybody special including me. I value the friends I've made through the cars more than any hunk of iron. No amount of cars or parts define a person,me included. I'm done with this one,it ain't worth it.

GM parts guy

Your 68 Hurst cars came from the FACTORY with the 445 engine complete.Hurst did the rest,to make it a Hurst car. Hurst did not put the engines in the cars.The 442s came from the factory with both the 251 and 253s from the factory.So if that guy has a NOS carb for 3500.You should ask him what a 253 might be worth?Or if he can find one.SO 4500?lol

dnmfranco

wasn't a carb - an air cleaner much more valuable .
Like I said if you got a 1000.00 for it I would be surprised