1964 394 won't start
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It's a new coil, Norm. It's chrome. I wanted to add a little bling so I bought a chrome ignition coil. I'd post a video of it running but I still have to rebuild the power steering pump, and I didn't put any coolant in it. I should do that- coolant, check the oil and transmission fluid, make sure they're topped off, check everything for leaks. I have to connect the carburetor linkages, and adjust the "kick down", I might still have to tighten up the exhaust. I have the "coverage" this weekend- I'm on call. That's why I'm not at Grandma's today, but it also means I have the whole day off tomorrow.
#45
Congrats Davek!!!!
Similar thing happened to me and my Jeep…I tried everything and then found out the dizzy was tooth out of location… fixed and Jeep fired right up.
Major props to GS72 for mentioned re-checking fire order and wires!
Jesus loves Oldsmobiles too!
Similar thing happened to me and my Jeep…I tried everything and then found out the dizzy was tooth out of location… fixed and Jeep fired right up.
Major props to GS72 for mentioned re-checking fire order and wires!
Jesus loves Oldsmobiles too!
Last edited by mb13; March 31st, 2024 at 02:24 PM.
#47
This has to be better...
before...
and after
before...
and after.
I put a dab of grease on the ends of the shaft and re-assembled it. It's already back in the car. I'm going to crank her over just to see if she spins any better... then I'll check the points, rotor, condenser... I'd love to run a compression test on the cylinders too, esp if the starter works better. Maybe I'll get more than 20 minutes before the battery is dead again...
before...
and after
before...
and after.
I put a dab of grease on the ends of the shaft and re-assembled it. It's already back in the car. I'm going to crank her over just to see if she spins any better... then I'll check the points, rotor, condenser... I'd love to run a compression test on the cylinders too, esp if the starter works better. Maybe I'll get more than 20 minutes before the battery is dead again...
A couple of them are so worn out that the insulated brush holder is contacting the armature.
This is what new brushes look like.
#48
SUCCESS! I feel so stupid! It was so simple!!!!! Firing order- no matter how many times I checked it, I had the firing order wrong!!!!
So I set the timing now that the starter actually spins the motor. It was a little advanced so I turned it back and checked again- but it was more advanced, not less. Okay, no big deal, turn it the other way and- wait a minute! If that's advanced more, not retarded... then the rotor spins.... the other way. I had the firing order reversed, as gs72 suggested- thanks Gary! It sounds like a big block...
So I set the timing now that the starter actually spins the motor. It was a little advanced so I turned it back and checked again- but it was more advanced, not less. Okay, no big deal, turn it the other way and- wait a minute! If that's advanced more, not retarded... then the rotor spins.... the other way. I had the firing order reversed, as gs72 suggested- thanks Gary! It sounds like a big block...
Lot of people get thrown off by the 1-8-7-3-6-5-4-2 firing order on these too, especially if they're used to the later GM 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 firing order.
You really need to find Volume 4!😄
#49
Well , they didn't invent that idea.
Olds did that in 1949.
Why they went with the more "conventional " 18436572 order ( a la Chevy & Cadillac ) in 1965 with the new second gen engine is a mystery to me.
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